Nikki interview w/ Hook Bomberry mini interview
by Scrub
On April 12, I got the chance to
sit down with Pro Wrestling Iron's Nikki and Hook Bomberry. In
some circles, Nikki is proclaimed as one of thee best female wrestlers
in the country. And as of late, Hook Bomberry has been making
waves out here on the SoCal scene, showcasing his Japanese-influenced
style for all to marvel at (or hate on, if you're not feeling
the Japanese style).
These two Bay Area grapplers are
some of the coolest people that I have met on the Indy scene.
They were very down-to-earth and very easy to talk to. Before
the interview, I got to meet Nikki's family, learned that Nikki
and Hook both have cats (Hook's cat is named Kawada), and that
Hook has a love and appreciation for old school hip hop. It took
us several attempts to get situated and find a place to conduct
the interview, but we finally found a spot and got to it.
Scrub: Alright, I'm here
with Nikki from the Bay Area's Pro Wrestling Iron. Also with me
is Pro Wrestling Iron's Hook Bomberry. Thank you guys for doing
this interview.
Nikki: Your welcome. (laughs)
Hook Bomberry: Yeah, right
on.
Scrub: First question for
Nikki, why'd you pick the name Nikki?
Nikki: I didn't really pick
it. I didn't have a name. And Gabe [Ramirez] from APW really liked
that Nikki show, with the wrestler as the husband, so he just
kinda stuck me with that. I think it was kinda a rib, but I don't
know. I'm probably gonna change it.
Scrub: Why the name Hook
Bomberry?
Hook Bomberry: Because it's
what Michael Modest gave me. He saw me in the ring with some bigger
guys, and I was holding my own and showing a lot of submission
skills so, as in "hooker", Hook Bomberry.
Scrub:
How did you guys get started in the wrestling business?
Nikki: I just liked wrestling
a lot. So I looked on the Internet and found a school close to
my house, signed up, and started going.
Hook: I was always a fan,
and I followed some Bay Area promotions, and I signed up for the
best [wrestling school].
Scrub: What got you hooked
into wrestling? Why was it so appealing to you guys?
Nikki: I don't really know.
It's really demanding on your body and mentally, and just like,
all the crummy people you run into, but it's just addicting. There's
nothing better than going out and being athletic and drawing emotions
out of people and having them react to what you're doing. It's
really awesome.
Hook: I just always liked
it growing up. So as soon as I turned 18, I signed up for Pro
Wrestling Iron. And since then, I just loved doing it. So I continued
doing it.
Scrub: Which wrestlers did
you guys admire growing up?
Nikki: Growing up, uhhh,
like Hulk Hogan and what not. But actually after training and
seeing what wrestling is all about, I admire people like Chris
Benoit and Dynamite Kid.
Hook: Yeah, same. Hulk Hogan,
Ultimate Warrior, umm...
Nikki: Macho Man.
Hook: Macho Man, Brutus the
Barber Beefcake, and uh, all those guys...
Nikki: Koko B. Ware!
Hook: Koko B. Ware! I was
a big fan...
Nikki: Frankie!
Hook: Yeah, and then now,
I like the Japanese style, like Michael Modest, real big inspiration
to me. Guys like that.
Scrub: What made you guys
actually decide that you could be wrestlers? What made you guys
believe that you could live your dreams?
Nikki: That's a really good
question. I don't know, because I failed P.E. all through high
school. I would never run a mile, or do anything. But, just when
you have passion to do something and drive. Your determination
just drives you so far with it.
Hook: I just believed in
myself. [Wrestling] was my dream going up, and I got into it,
and I just love doing it.
Scrub: When some people say
you need height to get into bigger federations, how come that
doesn't stop you from fulfilling your dream?
Hook: Because I believe now,
there's people like Spike Dudley... Chris Jericho is not big.
There's a lot of guys that are not that big that made it into
the WWE. And in Japan, it's not really that big of a deal, and
that's why, I ultimately want to go to Japan.
Scrub: What was training
under American Dragon like?
Nikki: It was awesome. It
was really at the point where I needed to put all my stuff together,
and [American Dragon] just had a way of working with me. And just
because he is so smooth and crisp, and can do anything from any
position. It just helped me out a lot with my fluidness. He's
just an awesome, awesome teacher.
Scrub:
Who were your other trainers at the time besides American Dragon?
Nikki: Robert Thompson taught
the class, but we did mostly personal training with American Dragon.
Robert Thompson was influential... like, a lot of little people
here and there, but like the main big influence was American Dragon.
Scrub: Who were the other
people in your class?
Nikki: In my class, uhh...
Apollo [Kahn], Jet Taylor... actually, he was in the class before
me. Uhhh, I think that's it.
Hook: Psycho Seth?
Nikki: No, he was in the
class after me. OH! Bobby Quance. Bobby Quance was in my class.
And everyone else dropped out. We started with 25 people in the
class. I think we were the only two that made it.
Scrub: Did any of the guys
give you a harder time for being a girl? Or were any of the guys
cutting you some slack for being a girl?
Hook: I never had that problem.
(Everyone laughs)
Nikki: Umm, I don't think
they were necessarily harder on me, but they never took it easy
on me. Like with the cardio drills we had to do, I would always
have to, like, even if I got a little hurt or banged up, [my trainers]
wouldn't force me to, but I was expected to be in there and not
sit out like a lot of the girls do and do the regular workout.
But because we're all such good friends outside of wrestling,
it's really hard for them to really lay it into me, like they
would the other guys.
Scrub: How long into training
did you have your first match?
Nikki: Over a year. Because
I trained for a year, then I got hurt. So I had to take three
months off for surgery...
Scrub: What did you have
surgery on?
Nikki: On my knee. And then
I think a couple months after that, I had my first match. It was
May of last year, and I started training in April of 2001.
Scrub: Who was your first
match against, and how did that go?
Nikki: First match...first
match, whoa... because, they made me be a manager first, and we
did goofy little tag matches where I didn't really do anything.
Hook: You were a gangster.
Nikki: Yeah, I was a gangster.
(laughs)
Scrub: Oh yeah! I do remember
that.
Nikki: Yeah, that was really
goofy.
Hook: And you'd wear the
bandana.
Nikki: Yeah, the bandana.
Scrub: So you're not really
a gangster?
Nikki: No, no.
(Scrub sighs.)
Nikki: I'm sorry.
Scrub: That's OK. So when
was your first singles match?
Nikki: First singles match
was May against Melissa in King City. It was a fair show, which
was really good, so the crowd was really receptive to us, because
we were girls, you know? But it was the worst. [Melissa] had to
guide me and like... I knew I wasn't ready, but I mean, there's
no other way than to just go out and do it, you know? It's so
nerve-wrecking to go out there and not be any good.
Scrub: How long into training
did you have your first match, Hook?
Hook: Eight months into my
training, I had my first match.
Scrub: And who was your first
singles match with?
Hook: My first singles match...
I think my first singles match was against Apollo Kahn, who I
happened to tag with tonight.
Scrub: How'd your first singles
match go?
Hook: It was alright, but
we could have done a lot better. It was a learning experience.
It was good.
Scrub: What other feds have
you guys worked?
Nikki: GSCW, CWA, SPWC something.
Super Dragon: Say in my bedroom.
Nikki: NOOOOOOOOO... (Everyone
laughs)
Super Dragon: I meant that
for Hook!
Scrub: Go away.
Nikki: I worked the Legends
of Wrestling show, and PWI, APW. I think that's it.
Hook: I've done Pro Wrestling
Iron, Revolution Pro...
Nikki: Yeah, me too!
Hook: Supreme Pro Wrestling...
Nikki: Oh! Me too, me too.
Hook: PCW in Northern California,
and... CWA.
Scrub: This question is for
Nikki. Do you prefer wrestling men or women?
Nikki: I prefer wrestling
men because... besides Melissa, the women I have encountered don't
really have very good training. And it's really hard to be in
a match, and be giving someone a move, and their selling is all
bad, and they don't want to take your stuff because they're scared.
So I prefer wrestling guys. Plus, it's easier to react and register
things when they are actually making contact with you.
Scrub: So are you saying
women don't connect with their strikes?
Nikki: No. Excluding Melissa.
Scrub: Does it frustrate
you that it's hard to find women that wrestle your style, or are
you content with just wrestling guys?
Nikki: It's frustrating because
a lot of promotions don't want to book a guy against a girl. I
don't know. I just makes me want to work harder to get to Japan
or go where there are some really good women... Mexico, or anywhere
else. We did Cauliflower Alley last week, and then we had to go
on and do a three-minute match. And then the girls... all Indy
girls have the basic head scissor, body scissor, huracanrana spots.
I like doing different stuff.
Scrub: What's your take on
US Women's wrestling?
Nikki: I don't know, because
I haven't seen much Indy women's wrestling.
Scrub: Oh, so what do you
think about WWE Women's wrestling?
Nikki: Oh, it's gotten a
lot better. But they don't know how to work. They have Fit Finlay
do their matches for them, but it's really good. It's better than
it has been. Well, wrestling in general on TV is just, bad. Not
what I like.
Scrub: You are largely considered
to be the top female wrestler in the United States. What are your
thoughts on that?
Nikki: They're wrong.
Scrub: How come you jumped
ship from All Pro Wrestling to Pro Wrestling Iron?
Nikki: I don't have any problems
with anyone in APW, and it was a really nice place to be, and
I got really good training there. But I just feel like now, I
want to advance and I want to be around more advanced wr... not,
I don't know. I don't want to take anything away from the people
at APW, because they are all really great people. But like, just
the level of the people at Pro Wrestling Iron is miles above APW,
and that's what I want to be a part of and that's what I want
to learn. You have to be in a place where you respect everyone
there, and a place where you want to be and where everyone wants
to be and they all want to help each other, and just be in a real
positive place, and that's what Pro Wrestling Iron is.
Scrub: Is that true, Hook?
Hook: Yeah, I completely
agree. I've had no problems since I've been there, and I've been
there since it opened. I love it there.
Nikki: It's not really jumping
ship. It's moving up, and moving on.
Scrub: OK, for the record,
she's not jumping ship.
Nikki: Someone was chanting
that while I was wrestling, "She jumped ship, she jumped
ship"!
Scrub: Yeah, I told him to
stop.
Nikki: Was that you?!
Scrub: I swear to God it
wasn't me!
Nikki: Oh. (laughs) OK.
Scrub: (points at Hook)
It was the guy you hate.
Hook: Joey Ryan's Fan?
Scrub: Yup.
Nikki: Oh yeah. It was that
guy.
Hook: Joey Ryan's fan is
a bastard. I want that on record. His sign was stupid too. That's
why I ripped it in half.
Nikki: What did his sign
say?
Hook: "Got Hook?"
Nikki: Oh. (Everyone laughs)
Scrub: Why were you pulled
off the GSCW show?
Nikki: When I decided to
leave APW and go to Pro Wrestling Iron, I knew that there was
a lot of political nonsense going on, and that there would be
a lot of drama surrounding it. So I called Henry [Luna, GSCW Owner]
and I let him know, and I didn't want to create any bad vibes
in his locker room, so I explained the situation to him, and [Henry]
just thought that until things are settled down, that it would
be better if I wasn't on the show, because people would get angry.
It's just not the place. Wrestling should be a fun, happy event.
Bad business, bad blood, bad anything in the locker room, you
don't want. And I don't want to be a part of that.
Scrub: How come you did not
go on the ARSION tour in February as planned?
Nikki: Well, last I heard,
Bionic J was my main contact there, and she was getting all my
stuff, and I sent her all my passport information, and she said
she's just waiting on my visa. But then the war, and [ARSION]
got a bunch of shows cancelled. [ARSION] said it was postponed,
but I haven't heard anything since. But now, with Mike [Modest]
having the title and NOAH coming down here, I'm hoping to just
stay here and learn as much as I can. Japan is not my number one
goal anymore...
Scrub: So what's your number
one goal then?
Nikki: Just to keep learning
at Pro Wrestling Iron. Hopefully... not that [PWI] can bring in
girls from Japan, but it would be beneficial for Japanese women
wrestlers to come here and work a show, and that would be great
for everyone all around. That would be ideal for me.
Scrub: Which Japanese womens
wrestlers would you like to wrestle?
Nikki: I really want to wrestle
Aja Kong.
Scrub: WHOA!
Nikki: (laughs) Yeah,
she'd kill me! I really really really really want to wrestle her.
Scrub: Uraken! BLAWH!
Nikki: Yeah, yeah.
Scrub: BRAIN BUSTAAAAAAAAAH!
Scrub: Yeah! Oh, she's the
best. But other than that, [Mariko] Yoshida...
Scrub: She's my favorite
womens wrestler.
Nikki: Yeah, yeah, Yoshida,
oh... she is the best. And...
Hook: I have no idea who
you guys are talking about.
Nikki: You don't know Yoshida?
Hook: I know...
Nikki:
Aja Kong?
Hook: Yeah.
Scrub: Yoshida does some
insane, insane matwork. She's badasss.
Nikki: Yeah, and [Aja Kong's]
like 250 lbs of five foot two. (laughs) She's a big girl.
She's so tough. Even [Japan's] young girls are at a level so much
higher than American women.
Scrub: Oh definitely. Would
you rather be in Japan where the fans take your wrestling seriously,
or be in the WWE and be a diva?
Nikki: Oh Japan, definitely.
I have no desire to be on TV or be famous. I don't expect to get
rich doing this. I don't WANT to get rich. I don't want to be
famous. I just want to have fun and wrestle, and know that I am
doing the best that I can do. So TV is definitely not my goal
or aspiration.
Scrub: Do you feel that your
options are limited being a female in this business?
Nikki: No, not necessarily.
I think it opens a lot of doors, just because now, people are
looking more towards females more, but the style that I have and
I'd like to stay to true to, I guess there's not much of a market
for.
Scrub: What is your favorite
match that you were in?
Nikki: Uhhh... favorite match,
favorite match. I don't know. I had a lot of fun today, even though
I screwed up the finish. I don't know. I don't have a favorite
match so far. I like working, I mean I LIKE working. So my favorite
match would be like any practice match we have where we don't
go over anything, and we just go in there and do our thing and
have fun. Any time where there is not a lot to think about.
Scrub: As a fan, what type
of wrestling do you watch now?
Nikki: I go in these weird
phases. So right now, I'm watching a lot of old WCW matches. I
have a tape of just all Benoit and Malenko and Eddy Guerrero.
So I like that. But then, I'll go in my Japanese mens phases,
and then I'll get so sick of that, that I'll just watch Japanese
women or I'll just watch, what else do I have... I don't have
any Lucha stuff. So mainly between old American wrestling and
Japanese.
Scrub: How do you feel about
the Southern California wrestling scene, and how would you compare
it to the other scenes out there?
Nikki: I think it's great,
and the people are so supportive here. It's great. And everyone
in the back is so happy and friendly and they all work this show
together, work that show together. It's just a big ol' Southern
Cal family. It's fantastic. I don't know any other wrestling scenes
because I haven't been around anywhere else...
Scrub: Could you compare
SoCal to NorCal?
Nikki: There's so many more
workers out here. And everyone is just personal friends with everyone.
It's amazing. Because, there's the whole APW/PWI thing, and then
there's all these other really small Indy feds that don't really
uhh... I don't know. Is that a good comparison?
Hook: I like it down here.
All the people here are really welcoming to me...
Nikki: Yeah.
Hook: Really made me feel
like a part of Revolution Pro, and everywhere else I've been.
UPW, I wrestled a lite show over there, everyone was just super
cool, and everyone was just nice, and everyone knows each other...
Nikki: And they all work
their different feds. It's just so nice.
Hook: There's really no political
stuff, that I've seen so far.
Nikki: Yeah.
Scrub: How do you like it
here Apollo Kahn?
Apollo Kahn: It's cool so
far. Everything out here in Southern California has gone perfect
so far so, I don't have any problems with anybody out here.
Scrub: In SoCal, who is someone
you guys would like to work with, but haven't yet?
Nikki: I really want to work
with Erika Porter. I hear she's really good. And uh, guy wise,
there's just so many good guys out here. I'd just be lucky to
wrestle any of them. But girl wise, definitely Erika.
Hook: Super Dragon would
be my number one pick. I'm gunning for him. So, anybody who wants
to get it booked, I want to wrestle him. And I also want a match
with Joey Ryan because he took me out with his neckbreaker move.
I want to get revenge on him too.
Scrub: Is there anyone you'd
like to work with in SoCal, Apollo?
Apollo Kahn: The only person
I know so far is Sacramento Dragon.
Hook: Sacramento?
Editor's Note: Since I feel that
someone is behind me, I swing my recorder over my shoulder and
ask...
Scrub: Who would you like
to work in SoCal?
Scorpio Sky: McDonald's.
(Everyone laughs)
Scrub: How about anyone in
the world?
Nikki: I don't know. (talking
to Super Dragon) You gotta go. (laughs)
Super Dragon: What?! I gotta
go?
Nikki: Yeah, you're making
me nervous.
Super Dragon: Just me, or
them too?
Editor's Note: People present
during this interview: Nikki, Hook Bomberry, Apollo Kahn, Super
Dragon, Scorpio Sky, TARO, Angel. Those were the only people I
saw as I briefly looked around.
Nikki: No, just you. I'm
sorry Dragon. You just make me nervous. OK, what was the question?
Scrub: Who would you like
to wrestle, not just SoCal, but anywhere in the world?
Nikki: Besides Aja Kong and
[Mariko] Yoshida... uhhhh, I don't know. Those are my two majors.
Scrub: Alright umm...
Hook: What about me?
Scrub: Who would you like
to wrestle?
Hook: I'd like to wrestle
Michael Modest in a singles match...
Nikki: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
me too!
Hook: That's like my dream
match.
Nikki: I'm with ya. I never
got a singles match with American Dragon either, so I'd like that...
Hook: I would also like to
wrestle American Dragon.
Scrub: So it looks like everyone
wants to wrestle American Dragon, huh.
Scorpio Sky: I didn't say
that.
Scrub:
You don't want to wrestle American Dragon? Oh, OK. Who would you
like to wrestle then?
Scorpio Sky: I'd like to
do a Lucha Libre style tag match with me and Quicksilver against
Mel Gibson and Danny DeVito. That'd be a good match.
Scrub: Four stars. OK, I'm
going to do some word association with you now. First, Melissa.
Nikki: Very hard worker.
Scrub: Roland Alexander.
Nikki: Good business man.
Scrub: Gabe Ramirez, Jason
Deadrich, the APW Brass.
Nikki: Very good at what
they are doing.
Scrub: Michael Modest, Donovan
Morgan, and the people over at PWI.
Nikki: Just one line?
Scrub: Or you could do it
in a paragraph.
Nikki: Family. Just phenomenal
workers. Outstanding work ethic, great reputation, oh, what's
that word? God-like, they're just so much higher and inspiring,
you know? The whole crew is just inspiring.
Scrub: Bobby Quance.
Nikki: He's a quick little
devil. Don't put that. He is really quick.
Scrub: Don't put "quick
little devil"?
Nikki: No, no, no. Bobby
Quance, uhhh...
Scrub: Why not? That'd be
cool. (pans hand from left to right) "Quick little
devil". No?
Nikki: Nooo. Uhh...
Hook: Who?
Nikki: Bobby Quance.
Hook: Quick little devil.
Nikki: Yeah, he is a quick
little devil.
Scrub: I think we're gonna
go with "quick little devil".
Nikki: OK, OK.
Scrub: Jardi Frantz.
Nikki: He's a very good flyer.
Scrub:
Super Dragon.
Nikki: I really like Dragon.
He's never dropped me on my head.
Scrub: Robert Thompson.
Nikki: He is just the best.
Ball full of energy. Very energetic.
Scrub: Bionic J.
Nikki: Oh, she's good at
what she does.
Scrub: How was your training
session with her, by the way?
Editor's Note: Bionic J had visited
the APW Boot Camp to scout Melissa and Nikki earlier last year.
Nikki: It was OK. It was
kinda goofy. Me and Melissa just worked out and [Bionic J] was
there. And she had us both do some cardio drills and suplexes
and what not. But it was really interesting. She's a very nice
girl.
Scrub: Did you know that
Michiko Ohmukai and GAMI were out here in SoCal, and they were
having training sessions?
Nikki: NO! WHEN?! WHERE?!
Scrub: It was after the first
Rev J. September 2001.
Nikki: ARE THEY COMING BACK?!
Hook: I knew about it.
Scrub: Yeah, I don't know
when they are coming back.
Nikki: OH! I love her!
Scrub: Yeah, it was Ohmukai,
GAMI... Rossy Ogawa was out here, and they brought with them press
people from Samurai TV and the Gongs. They had tryouts and no
one showed up.
Nikki: You're kidding me!
Scrub: I swear. Well, nobody
that deserved a tryout.
Nikki: (sighs) Yeah,
Ohmukai, wow. I don't know what she's doing now, but yeah. Wow.
I really want her to kick me in the head. Like her axe kick? Yeah.
They're great. I'd do [axe kicks], but it doesn't look good unless
Japanese people do them. I would always have Mokoto (sp?), this
guy we train with, he's from Japan. I'd always have him axe kick
me because, it's really cool. Yeah, she's good.
Scrub: Nikki. Umm, your take
on yourself.
Nikki: Uhhh, oh, who's that
girl? (laughs) Uhh, I don't know. My take on myself...
I don't know.
Scrub: What's your take on
Nikki, Hook?
Nikki: Yeah. There you go.
Hook: She's great. Hard worker.
Real equal with a lot of the guys...
Nikki: Awwwwww...
Hook: And better than a lot
of them.
Scrub: Any final thoughts
for the SoCal wrestling fans?
Nikki: Go to church!
Hook: I like all of them,
except for Joey Ryan's number one fan. All of them besides him
are cool.
Super Dragon: We came to
play spin the bottle.
Scrub: Uhhhh, I'd like to
thank Nikki and Hook Bomberry for joining me for this interview.
Thank you guys.
Nikki: And...
Scrub: And who?
Nikki: Apollo Kahn.
Scrub: Apollo Kahn, for chiming
in every now and then.
Super Dragon: Did you chime
in?
Apollo Kahn: Lightweight,
lightweight man.
Scrub: Alright. Thanks guys.
Nikki: Thank you.
Hook: Thank you.