Lucky interview
by Scrub

At UPW Gold Rush, Scrub had the opportunity to sit down and interview Lucky. Lucky talked about how he got into wrestling, his training in various schools, his thoughts on his past gay gimmick and his current Lucky gimmick, balancing a military career with a wrestling career, what he likes and hates about the SoCal scene, his most recent injury at the benefit show, and much more.

Before we began the interview, Lucky had informed that if he were to be discharged from the Marines due to his ankle injury, that he'd move back to his hometown in Texas for good.

Scrub: I'm sitting here with Lucky. Thank you Lucky for doing this interview.

Lucky: My pleasure.

Scrub: Where are you from originally?

Lucky: I was born in Tacoma Washington, but I was raised in Corpus Christi Texas.

Scrub: How did you get into wrestling?

Lucky: It was just one of those things I always wanted to do as a little kid. And when I was in high school, my old track coach, he had been an Indy worker when he was in Texas. So, one day the track got rained out and he brought his old photo album and he showed me pictures of his wrestling. He convinced me that even though I was smaller than other people, I could still have a run at the Indies at least. So I started training with him. And then he introduced me to Paul Garvan, who's an old Luchador down in Texas. And him and his sons took me in and they started training me.

Scrub: What year was this?

Lucky: Let's see. I'd say it was 96 when I met up with the coach, and he just showed me basic hold-to-hold stuff. You know, not too much because we didn't have a ring. And then around 97 is when I was introduced to Paul Garvan and then I had my first match in 98.

Scrub: So, basically, you first got into wrestling in high school?

Lucky: Basically.

Scrub: What was your training experience like in Texas?

Lucky: Ah, well, at the time, I thought it was great. But, compared to how it is out here, I guess it would be considered pretty horrible. I mean, he was one of those old Luchadores, you know, always drunk at training and you know, I have a tendency to be kind of stiff in the ring because when I was in there with [Garvan], punches were punches, kicks were kicks. If you didn't kick, he'd kick you until you got it right. So, pretty much, it was just 5 nights a week going in there and having him beat the crap out of me over and over again until I got things right.

Scrub: When did you decide to move out to SoCal and get into the wrestling scene here?

Lucky: I wrestled for about 2 and a half years in Corpus with Paul and his promotion, GCCW. And then we kind of had a falling out because his son was the main star, and me and his son didn't get along, so I was pretty much blackballed from wrestling out there. And I realized if I was gonna have any chance of wrestling that I had to go to either the East Coast or West Coast. I couldn't afford to move, so I joined the military, because either way, there's a base on either coast. And then the military stationed me out in California. So I figured, SoCal's my home now.

Scrub: Where in SoCal are you stationed?

Lucky: I'm in 29 Palms. It's not really in SoCal. It's about 3 hours away. It's out past where Frankie [Kazarian] lives out in Yucca Valley. But I make the drive out every weekend for training and matches.

Scrub: That's impressive.

Lucky: Thank you.

Scrub: After the move to California, how did you get into the actual SoCal Indy scene?

Lucky: As soon as I got here, I got on the Internet and looked up "California Wrestling". I was trying to find as many promotions as I could, but I really couldn't find any. I found Bill Anderson's school and I found APW, but that's way too far up North for me. So, I kind of had given up hope, and then one night, I just turned on the TV and they had the UPW special on. So the next day was a Friday afternoon and I emailed Schwag told him about my past wrestling experience and that I'm in the military. He called me the next day and told me about the tryouts that UPW was having at their school. Went to the tryouts and made the cut so I started training with UPW.

Scrub: What was it like training with UPW?

Lucky: At first, it was kind of frustrating because they put me in the freshman class and I had already pretty much learned the basics that I had been doing in Texas for awhile. It was over packed. There was thirty-something people in that class, so I was getting maybe about 5 minutes of ring time because I'd hit my rolls right the first time, so I'd get out. Then, "Joe Schmuckatelly" behind me is rolling over and over and over again. Half an hour later, he's still trying to do a ¾ roll. So at first, I was pretty pissed. But then [the class] started weeding out and got smaller and smaller and right off the bat, I could kind of tell who else was going to be able to keep up with me. The only other people in that freshman class that I knew would hang would be the Lost Boys. As it turned out, me and Scott Lost are the only two from our freshman class that made it through.

Scrub: How long into training with UPW did you have your first match in SoCal?

Lucky: Oh it was a… (counts on fingers) at least a good 8 or 9 months.

Scrub: Who did you have your first match with?

Lucky: My first match was me and Preston Scott against Eric Matlock and "Red Hot" Johnny Rage at a UPW Lite Show.

Scrub: Where else have you worked in SoCal besides UPW?

Lucky: Umm, I got the privilege of working Bill Anderson's fed a couple times before they went under. I've worked WCWA down in San Diego. Um, I did one Rev Pro match but I was under a hood. That was a horrible match because it was kind of thrown together at the last minute. I've been lucky enough to work MPW a few times. They're a really good fed. GSCW. I hope I'm not leaving anybody out, but I think that pretty much covers it for the most part. Oh, and I work WPW like all the time. Martin would kill me if I didn't put that in there.

Scrub: As a fan, what kind of wrestling are you into?

Lucky: I'm really into comedy wrestling. I don't like it when the whole match is comedy, but I love watching the funny little bits people put in it. I used to be really into flying. If anyone saw any of my old stuff in Texas, [there was] no psychology. I'm gonna dive out the ring here, I'm gonna do a moonsault there, do a flip here. But after that, I blew me knee out and then I kind of got a big dose of psychology when I got up here [to SoCal]. So now, I like to just work the arm.

Scrub: Any specific comedy wrestlers you like to watch?

Lucky: Not specifically. It's weird. I love comedy, but my favorite wrestler is Lance Storm. He's funny because he's not funny. He's funny because he's so serious and it's great.

Scrub: What are your thoughts on the gay gimmick, and how did that come about?

Lucky: If you give it a chance, the gay gimmick is possibly the funniest gimmick you can find. [The gay] gimmick came out kind of by accident. I saw Preston Scott at the Lite Show doing the gay gimmick. He kind of did it half-heartedly. I mean he put his best into it, but it's kind of hard doing the gay gimmick by yourself. So I was giving a lot of fan support, brought signs , cheered for him all the time, and we became pretty good buddies. And one night, he asked me to be his manager. So I came out as his manager. I screamed, cheered, jumped up and down, and I guess [UPW] liked it, because the next week, [UPW] were like, "Hey, you two are going to tag together next week. I wanna see the gay gimmick again." And, we did it. And, before you know it, they were like "Hey, you guys wanna do the Galaxy as G.A.Y.?" Can't say no to that.

Scrub: Were you ever uncomfortable doing the gay gimmick?

Lucky: Oh no, not at all. I figured, if you're gonna do something, go all the way. And anyone that has seen my matches knows that I didn't hold anything back as far as acting gay. You'd look stupid playing a half-assed gay guy. It's either all or nothing. So I was really comfortable. There was a little grief from the boys in the back at first. I guess a few of them actually thought that I was kind of gay. That just comes with the territory. You can't expect to do that kind of gimmick that well and not get slack for it.

Scrub: Why did you switch to the Lucky gimmick?

Lucky: That was just because, around that time when UPW was having back-to-back Galaxy shows, I was doing a lot of training with the military, and I was gonna be sent away to the desert and do cold weather training and all that stuff. So I was gonna be gone for a couple months. And right after that was Christmas break, so I was going home. So for about 2 or 3 months, I wasn't gonna be around. And I didn't wanna leave Preston hanging, I didn't wanna leave UPW hanging. So I talked to Matrix and asked if he wanted to fill in for me. And when I got back, I heard how great of a job he did and the new G.A.Y. is really over and they're doing great so I was like, I'm not gonna jump in and steal their thunder you know. So I figured I'd just do my own thing. I've always wanted to do the Lucky character, but I've never had a chance.

Scrub: So for the record, you didn't leave G.A.Y. because you were frustrated with the gimmick, did you?

Lucky: No. I mean, you get those times where I was frustrated for certain little things. It didn't matter what move I hit. No one cared, as long as I did something gay afterwards. You know, I could hit a beautiful driver with no pop. But if I grabbed the guy's ass while I'm pinning him, everyone's jumping up and down. Then the next week, B-Boy could do the exact same driver, and then everyone would be calling him innovative, and how great he is. So it's kind of frustrating that no one actually paid attention to my wrestling, but my gimmick. But you know, that's to be expected.

Scrub: Can you give a brief explanation about the Lucky character?

Lucky: The best thing about the Lucky gimmick is that there is no gimmick. It's just me. It's pretty much however I wanna act, you know. If I'm the heel, I'm pretty much playing my character: I'm sarcastic, I'm a smart ass, I make fun of people. And that's who I am in real life to people I don't like. And when I'm a face, I'm just happy and fun loving. Just out there having a good time. And that's the best part. Because with the gay gimmick, the only moves you could do, were gay moves, because you had to stay in gimmick. So since Lucky is just a name, there's no real gimmick behind it. I can work the arm, I can dive, I can do whatever I want, and its not breaking character.

Scrub: Any reason why you chose the name Lucky?

Lucky: Umm, yeah, kind of. I've always considered myself a real lucky person and I've always been thankful for the blessings I got, you know. I was lucky enough to have a good childhood, lucky enough to be 16-17 years old training in wrestling, something that I've always wanted to do. I was lucky enough to get stationed out in SoCal. You know, I'm not overseas in Japan. I'm not in Afghanistan. There were a few times that I was with a unit that was gonna leave, and two weeks before they'd leave, I'd get transferred somewhere else, so I'd get to stay here. So I'd consider myself pretty lucky to be training with the people I train with, so the name just seemed to fit.

Scrub: Who are you pretty close to in the SoCal scene?

Lucky: We got our own little circle of friends. I mean, all the boys here in SoCal are great. Texas was awful. The locker rooms were horrible. No one talked to each other. I really like the bond everyone has here. But my closest friends would have to be Scott Lost, Supa Badd, Joey Ryan, B-Boy, Funky Billy Kim, without a doubt. You know, the six of us, always try to get on the same shows. We carpool together as much as possible. And come weekends, it's either we're all chilling at Vince's (Supa Badd) house, or Scott's staying over at my place, or we're all staying at Tommy's house (FBK), you know. We all hang out a lot, so those would have to be my best friends out here in SoCal.

Scrub: All you guys managed to get on those WPW shows as well.

Lucky: Yeah. That's just fun and games. I think Supa Badd was the first one [to work WPW] and he kept telling how much fun it was, and we were always practicing on Sundays. But then Sunday practices got cancelled. So we were like, "Yeah, we'll check [WPW] out". And it ended up being a lot of fun.

Scrub: What was it like balancing a military career along with a pro wrestling career?

Lucky: Oh, it is really hard and time consuming. I mean, I work all week long. I'm up at 4:35 in the morning working till 5 or 6 in the afternoon. I leave SoCal Sundays probably like 2 or 3 in the morning, and I gotta be at work at 5. So I drive straight to base, and I go all Monday without sleep. I would leave base, drive three hours out here, do the Galaxy, turn around and drive three hours back the same night and be at work the next morning, just because it was the only chance I had to wrestle. So, it's really tough, but I want wrestling enough and it's what I love to do. So, it's worth it.

Scrub: What's your favorite match in your career?

Lucky: My favorite matches are the ones where we really didn't try, but we just went out there and had fun. The Halloween match at WPW with Paul London and…

Scrub: (interrupts) The infamous Halloween match that everybody talks about but no one has seen.

Lucky: Yes. I have one of the ONLY copies of that match on tape.

Scrub: I'd really like to see that actually.

Lucky: Yeah, it's really not as great as everyone thinks. I mean, all the guys, we all saw it together, and we thought it was the worst thing ever, and we were all surprised when it got ranked. It was a great match up until the end where Paul London kind of hurt his neck on that Shooting Star Press. It kind of gave everybody a big scare. But up until then, it was a blast. Everyone was hitting each other's moves and we were just running around. Nothing was planned. Two out of three falls, we were all over the place for like half an hour. It was great.

Scrub: I seriously want to see that match. I heard it was a fun match.

Lucky: Yeah, well the best part about it was I was in there with all my friends: B-Boy, Scott Lost, Joey Ryan, Supa Badd, Paul London's great, you know. It's just you and your friends having fun.

Scrub: If you had to pick just one person, who would be your favorite person to work in SoCal?

Lucky: That's a really tough one. Ummm, I guess it would probably be Scott Lost because I think I've worked him more often than I've worked anyone else. And the one singles match that I actually had at the Galaxy was with him. And I think that match turned out pretty good. We've trained together from the beginning and we've wrestled each other enough times. We know each others moves. We know what we like to hit. And he does a good job selling for me and I try to sell for him.

Scrub: Who's the one guy in SoCal that you'd love to work but still have yet to do so?

Lucky: Frankie the Future. I'm a huge Frankie mark. I think he's a great guy. Just talking to him, you learn a lot about the business. And best thing about him is that he's really down to earth, you know. He could just tell you that he's just some schmuck from down the street, as he likes to call himself. He's a really great guy. I have not yet had the chance to wrestle him. It'd be really nice for me to step up to see if I could keep up with Frankie.

Scrub: Hopefully, you get that chance. Maybe after you heal up.

Lucky: I hope so too.

Scrub: How long are you going to be out, by the way?

Lucky: The doctor is saying like a year, year and a half. But, you know doctors always overshoot stuff. I'm gonna try to come back as soon as I can, but I don't wanna rush it, because it's a pretty bad ankle.

Scrub: Who's the one guy past or present that you'd love to work with?

Lucky: You know what? I don't think I could just pick one person, past or present. There's so many great wrestlers out there. I could name one guy now, but ten minutes from now, I'd think of somebody else. I feel privileged to work with everybody I get to work with and the more people I get to work, the better.

Scrub: What's your long-term wrestling goal?

Lucky: Well, I'm not going to lie. WWF, that's what everybody wants. But, I'm not going to kid myself and think that it's going to happen. There's a chance that it might not. That's why I try to do the military thing and I go to college and stuff. Prepare myself. But really, I just love wrestling. I don't care if it's at a swap meet. I don't care if it's at the Galaxy. It's just fun to be in the ring. And I'd like to do it as long as my body let's me do it.

Scrub: What's your long-term life goal?

Lucky: Just to be happy. That's like the biggest thing to me. Umm, I really don't plan stuff. Everything is the spur of the moment, you know. I joined the Marines two days after I talked to the recruiter. I went in there, and two days later, I'm on a bus to boot camp. It's just the way it is because you got to be mindful to the future, but not at the expense of the moment, you know. I can't worry about where I'm gonna be 5 years from now and then lose side of all the fun I could have now. So, as long as I'm happy, wherever I'm at, it's cool with me.

Scrub: Do you have plans on coming back to a SoCal ring in the near future, after coming back from such a major injury?

Lucky: Not in the NEAR future. I really don't know how long I have to keep these screws in my ankle. I don't know if they're gonna be lifetime or if they're gonna be taken out. But, you know, there's nothing that I'd love more than to get back in the ring as soon as possible. So, God willing, as soon as I can, I'll be back.

Scrub: How many screws do you have inside?

Lucky: I only have two. Going through my talus bone and my ankle.

Scrub: What was the first thing going through your mind after the injury?

Lucky: Oh shit, I hope the Marines don't find out.

Scrub: Growing up, who were some of your favorite wrestlers?

Lucky: Growing up, that's a tough one. I think, growing up, my favorite was Rey Misterio Jr. because I remember the first time I really decided to be a wrestler was when I saw him at a house show in Houston and fought Konnan. And even though Konnan was twice his size, Rey beat Konnan and whooped up on him and that really inspired me. And later on, it became Lance Storm and people like that.

Scrub: What was your favorite match growing up? Would it be that specific Misterio/Konnan match you saw?

Lucky: It would be that one for sentimental reasons. But like entertainment wise, I always like watching Misterio and Malenko. Any match they have is just gold.

Scrub: What's your favorite match currently?

Lucky: Like the best match I've seen lately?

Scrub: What you're into right now, at the moment.

Lucky: It's really hard to name matches. I remember the match I got most excited about lately was the Rock/Hogan match at Wrestlemania. I was expecting a big disappointment. I didn't think Hogan could go. We were all sitting at Supa Badd's house. We were all cuddled up on the couch. Watching… (realizes what he just said) well, not cuddled. Strike that from the interview.

Scrub: It's going in, pal.

Lucky: We're all sitting on the couch watching Wrestlemania and we were all like, "Ahhhh, alright, everyone get up, let's order some food". And I was just stunned. Hogan really went, and it was a great match. Best match that I've seen in a long time.

Scrub: What's your take on American wrestling in general?

Lucky: I think American wrestling is great. I mean, everyone's got their own opinion. Some people like Lucha. Some people like "Strong Style" Japanese. I'm just a wrestling fan. I got Lucha tapes. I got Japanese tapes. I got American tapes. I think American wrestling is great, but a good wrestler knows how to combine them all, and keeps an open mind.

Scrub: What was it like teaming with Preston Scott?

Lucky: That was a unique experience. I got to say he's a true fan. He's a good guy. We worked well together. We had a lot of good matches. I think he's really happy with his spot right now, and that's really great. I kind of wish I was still teaming with him, not that I miss the gay gimmick, but he was a good guy to work with.

Scrub: What are your thoughts on UPW & Rick Bassman?

Lucky: UPW's actually been good to me. They catch a lot of flack from everybody but, I mean, I paid my dues, I did the training, I did the Lite Shows, they liked the gimmick, they put me on the Galaxy shows, simple as that. I switched to the Lucky gimmick, and they didn't put me back on the Galaxy, but it's to be expected because I haven't proven myself as "Lucky". All [UPW] knows is "Ultra Hot". I have no bad blood. Rick Bassman, when I broke my ankle, he called me at the hospital, he came by to visit me, he was right there when the ambulance came. So as far as I'm concerned, he's a great guy.

Scrub: What were your thoughts on your match as G.A.Y. vs. the Ultimate Army?

Lucky: Painful. Very painful. The funny thing is that Nathan Jones is like a giant teddy bear. I mean, he'll slam you, and then start laughing like a little kid when he takes a bump. After every slam, he's like, "Oh are you OK? I didn't hurt you did I?" And then he'd pick me up and throw me around again. So, not much you can do.

Scrub: Like you said earlier in this interview, you said you worked under a mask at Revolution Pro. What are your thoughts on that one match and how is their locker room atmosphere?

Lucky: The Rev Pro locker room is actually pretty good. I really didn't get the chance to meet everybody because I had a Lite Show that afternoon too. So we went in and me and Supa Badd did the first match and then went to the Lite Show and ended up finding each other there. But it's a good locker room. I like Rising Son and Excalibur. I haven't really talked to Super Dragon. I met him a couple times. He seems like a nice enough guy. So, I have no problem with anybody at Rev Pro.

Scrub: How did you get yourself booked on the MPW shows?

Lucky: Really, I think it was the G.A.Y. thing. G.A.Y. was hot at the time. Everybody wanted it, you know. [MPW] gave me a call and said, "We want you to wrestle the Lost Boys". Chance for me to work with Scott and Ryan, you know. So I got up on there. And then afterwards, the same situation, I gave up being gay. I hadn't proved myself with "Lucky" so I wasn't getting booked. But, Lucky's seen an MPW show or two. I was supposed to be trying to do some more, you know, trying to get in there, but the ankle injury.

Scrub: Lately, MPW's status as a fed has been questionable.

Lucky: Yeah. I hope they come up and running because it's a really good fed. Even when I wasn't working [the MPW shows], I just enjoyed sitting and watching. They had some great matches that you'd never see anywhere else.

Scrub: Yeah. I'd always see you in the front row at MPW.

Lucky: Oh, it's a blast.

Scrub: What are your thoughts on that actual match with the Lost Boys at MPW?

Lucky: It was a lot of fun. The one thing about UPW, at the time, is that they were doing a lot of time restraints, you know. "Go five minutes. Don't go over. Four minutes and a half. You've got to hit that mark", you know. And it's understandable. They're trying to get ready for TV and all that stuff. At MPW, Logan X is just like, "Just….. go. Ten, fifteen, whatever you guys feel like doing." So we got to throw out a lot of stuff.

Scrub: You guys got a lot of time actually.

Lucky: Yeah, it was a good match. I didn't get to see it for a few months, but when I finally did, I was pretty happy with it.

Scrub: One of these days, we'll try to stop including this particular element in our interviews, but for right now, I think it's time for a little word association. I think it's mandatory in every SoCal interview we do.

Lucky: I just hope you name people I know.

Scrub: Alright, I'm gonna start off with Preston Scott.

Lucky. Preston Scott. Ummmmm. What could be said about Preston Scott? Let's see. A true fan. My first tag team partner out here. I'll always have a soft spot for him.

Scrub: Supa Badd

Lucky: One of the funniest guys in the world. I mean, he has an opinion about everything: movies, music. Don't get into an argument with him because you'll never hear the end of it.

Scrub: Scott Lost

Lucky: Possibly my closest friend out here. Great guy. Great wrestler. And I really hope he goes far in this business.

Scrub: Street Style

Lucky: The man who broke my ankle.

Scrub: (hums evil music) DUN-DUN-DUNNNN!

Lucky: Good enough guy. I really don't know him too much. I met him on a couple shows. He took the cup check like a man. He broke my ankle, but shit happens in this business. So, good enough guy. And I'd actually like to work with him again soon.

Scrub: No remorse?

Lucky: No regrets. It could have been anybody. It could have been me diving a top of Supa Badd. Would Supa Badd hate me if I broke his ankle?

Scrub: True.

Lucky: You know, it's just the way it goes.

Scrub: Spanky

Lucky: Great guy. When we first got out here, we actually got to hang out a lot. We went out almost every weekend. We were going out seeing the sights and stuff. Really opinionated and really knows what he wants from this business. Really knows what he wants from his career. Most dedicated man I have ever met.

Scrub: Samoa Joe

Lucky: Talented. There's nothing else you can say about him. He hasn't even been in this business but a couple of years. In my opinion, he's already one of the best workers that I have ever seen. I mean, he can do everything. He can kick you, he can slam you, he can tie you up in holds. And I really did like all the training sessions where he led the class. It was a great experience.

Scrub: B-Boy.

Lucky: Ah, Benny. Not much competition in a drinking contest. But, he's a good enough guy. Actually didn't like him too much when I first got here. But that's fine because everybody hated me when I first showed up. But, [B-Boy] ended up becoming one of my closest friends.

Scrub: It's mandatory in every SoCal word association: Super Dragon

Lucky: Like I said, I've only met him a couple times. I know he's got a bad rap with the guys, so I'm not gonna comment on that because I don't know much about it. But, you know, he came up to me, shook my hand, introduced himself and we had "How're you doing" conversations every once in awhile. Don't really talk to him much, but seems good enough. His work seems pretty solid, you know. It's not anything that I would do because I'm not into the high flying and the flips, but if you can do it, more power to you.

Scrub: Rick Bassman & UPW.

Lucky: Umm, I guess if I was gonna use any word, I would say the evil stepfather. But, he's really not that evil, you know. He's strict, he knows what he wants, and he's running a business. You got to do what he wants in the business or you're not going to get booked. And it's nothing personal. It's just the way things go.

Scrub: Martin Marin & WPW

Lucky: Well if he'd quit driving my car, I'd have much better things to say about him. Good enough guy. He really looks out for us, you know. On long trips, he drives the "Lucha Van" and takes all the wrestlers up to and forth. Takes you out to dinner. We don't have to worry about whether or not we are booked by Martin, it's just what match we're in.

Scrub: Paul V. & MPW

Lucky: Really liked MPW. Had a lot of fun there. Paul's a great guy. It's really refreshing to go to a fed that's run by a worker, because they are more inclined to relate to wrestlers and make sure you're taken care of. As opposed to someone who has never been there.

Scrub: The SoCal wrestling scene, in general.

Lucky: The SoCal scene in general is pretty good. I only have one little beef about it. And that's the Internet. I mean, I understand that it's free speech and everything. I just think that it's a shame that there's a lot of really good workers in SoCal that don't get the opportunities because there's a couple people who go and post bad things about them, you know. I could understand if they had bad attitudes and they weren't trying, but you got guys that are really busting their ass out here. But because one or two people are like, "Oh, they suck", they're posting all over the place, "Worst match ever, needs to go back to training, he's like a backyarder". And believe it or not, you know, bookers read the things. So there's a lot of good guys that are losing spots, you know, because of that. I've been taken off a card or two because someone posted that they don't like me. I mean, they didn't even see my match. And they were like, "Oh, I heard it was a bad match. I'm guessing it was because of Lucky". And before you know it, they're telling me that they're not sure if they want me on the show because I have a bad rep in SoCal.

Scrub: Any animosity towards any posters in general?

Lucky: No. You know what? I don't know any of the people who post. I know some of the guys and the guys I know don't have any bad blood with me. World's Biggest Mark, Big Josh, I've only met you recently. None of you guys seem bad. There's only one person that I really don't like, but I've never met him. I know this is going to get me tore up on the Internet scene and there's going to be a hundred bad Lucky posts when I say it, but Justin Crast. I don't think anyone has ever met this kid. But he's the same kid that goes on the Internet and says that, "Frankie is a decent wrestler, but he has no charisma". Frankie OOZES charisma. Just watching him cut promos and walk around the ring. He's fantastic. [Justin's] the same person that said, "Oh, I didn't see the match, but I'm guessing it was horrible, because of Lucky", when all the blown spots, weren't because of me, you know, it was because of the other guy. So I just think it's kind of screwed up where he doesn't see all the shows, he didn't see all the matches, but he passes judgment like he's God. I mean, you don't like wrestling, you want to vent, you want to say that, that's fine. But there's a certain line. Good match, bad match, I've seen him do better, he needs to try harder. But you don't go on [the Internet] and totally blast another wrestler, just because you don't like him.

Scrub: Any thoughts on socaluncensored.com and/or the staff?

Lucky: No. I don't own a computer, so the only time I go [to the site] is when I go to Supa Badd's house. He pops on there a lot. He checks the news and dates of shows. So, I don't know too much about it. It's a good site. It tells you when the shows are coming up. It has people's opinions. I don't know how the rankings work but I agree with most of the rankings. All in all, it's a good site. It's just you know, those few jerks that jump on there and post without knowing what they're saying kind of bugs me.

Scrub: Last one for word association: Lucky

Lucky: (long pause) You know what? I don't think I can really say anything about that. You need to ask one of the other guys what they think about me because I'll just put myself over and it'll be a big mess. All in all, I guess, seriously, I do what I can. I try as hard as I can. I try to have good locker room etiquette. I do what I can in my matches. If they come out great, and you enjoy them, all the better. And I appreciate everyone who supports me. But all in all, I'm just another worker trying to make a living.

Scrub: Well, with that said, and since we just so happen to have another SoCal guy to our side, Silver Tyger, what do you think about Lucky?

Silver Tyger: I think he's a very good guy. Sometimes he could be kind of screwed up in the ring. But, all in all, out of the ring, he's one of the best guys I've ever met on the wrestling scene. He's nice. He's humble. Kind of stiff, but it's not his fault, because he's a military man. He can withstand pain a lot and I'm very proud of him. I would have cried if I would have broken my ankle the way he did. And I'm proud that he's been strong.

Scrub: Any last words for the SoCal fans, Lucky?

Lucky: Yeah, I would just like to thank all the people who supported me and were there when I broke my ankle. It really meant a lot to me having everybody there. Thanks.

Scrub: Thank you for your time. On behalf of socaluncensored.com, I wish you a speedy recovery.

Lucky: Thank you. Thank you very much.