B-Boy interview
by Steve
In just about two years B-Boy has
become one of the top wrestlers not only in Southern California,
but the entire world. There has not been a single month where
B-Boy wasn't ranked in SoCal UNCENSORED's Top 15, and he was ranked
#230 in the world in Death Valley Driver's most recent DVD 500.
I recently had the opportunity to talk with B-Boy. In this interview
we discuss his start, his feud with Super Dragon, working for
UPW, being selected for the prestigious Revolution J tournament,
and more.
Steve: Thank you for taking
the time to do this interview, lets get started shall we?
B-Boy: Okay.
Steve: When you were growing
up you kind of fell in with the wrong crowd, can you tell us a
little about that and what it was that made you decide to change
your life?
B-Boy: Well like any other
kid, you can sometimes choose the wrong choices in life, with
me I did I was with the wrong crowd. I was in and out of juvenile
hall. I did everything in the book man. At something happened
in my life where I had a serious picture of what I was in ya know?
Thought to myself "damn man I need to get out the lifestyle" So
I got my stuff together and tried to changed my past or erase
my past ya know, but everyone has a past you can never forget
it, I try to stay positive and just go on with what I'm doing
day by day. I'm just happy on what I'm doing now and enjoying
life as it is.
Steve: You trained at CCW's
Palace of Pain, how did hook up with CCW and what made you decide
to go into wrestling?
B-Boy: Well I've always been
a fan of wrestling ever since I was like 4 yrs old man. So I was
always the biggest mark when it came down to it, but never really
said anything lol. I got hooked up with CCW by a flyer that was
being passed out at a WCW PPV down here in San Diego. I've always
dreamed to be a professional wrestler, so I called up the school
the next day and the rest was history.
Steve: How did the B-Boy
gimmick come about?
B-Boy: Well I always was
a B-Boy. B-Boy is someone that was a breakdancer, use to spin
on the turntables, graffiti as well as rhyme on a mic. I always
use to go to this thing out here called the B-Boy Summit, which
was sort of a gathering of all the B-Boy's up and down the West
Coast. One day I was at work, thinking to myself that it would
be a good name, and a good gimmick. (Too Cool stole the gimmick)
I ran it by the promoter at first he didn't like it, but fans
started responding to the gimmick and it stuck ever since then.
Steve: Back to CCW for just
a moment. CCW is where you debuted and where you started to make
a name for yourself with a great series of matches with guys like
Cruiser Eddie Willams, James McFarlane (Chip Adams) and Jason
Redondo. What do you feel was your most memorable moment in CCW?
B-Boy: Actually there have
been a lot of memories in CCW, with having matches with those
guys as well as others. I have a couple that were of course the
series matches with Eddie Williams, which is probably THE person
that got me the exposure. I also had a memory of having the first
"big" crowd to work in front of as, but I think the best memory
I have there was probably winning my first title there against
Eddie Williams, which was the cruiserweight title.
Steve: CCW's end came pretty
suddenly. What do you think of the way Charles Gibbs (CCW owner)
handled the end of CCW?
B-Boy: I really in all honestly
thought he dealt with it the wrong way, I know the trouble of
running a promotion with the money and everything, but I seriously
think he did not think of the fans especially ones that were with
us from start to finish. I really think that he should've told
fans that it was the last show, if not I think he should've had
ONE last show just for the fans to give CCW the proper sendoff
as well as leave SoCal respectably.
Steve: Yeah. CCW had one
of the most loyal fanbases of any fed in SoCal and the way it
was handled was pretty much a slap in the face to the fans.
B-Boy: I seriously don't
want to start heat, but it is the definite truth.
Steve: Ok moving on to other
things. You pretty quickly made a name for your self in SoCal.
You were named socal-wrestling.com's 1999 rookie of the year.
How did you feel about that honor and how do you think it helped
your career?
B-Boy: Well in all honesty
I was shocked, real shocked but at the same time really happy.
The honor was great because it was fans that voted for me, it
was one of my highest achievements I have had in wrestling. I
believed that it helped my career because at the time socal-wrestling.com
was the spot to go on the Internet. I guess promoters and workers
saw that I was and wanted to see me work, to see if I was hype
or if I was real.
Steve: When and how did you get
your first booking outside of CCW?
B-Boy: Well it was actually
the "whole ref'n show" in Adam Marantz. Adam just started to go
to a promotion that was tearing it up around the Ventura area
in UIWA. One day Adam just asked if I would like to go down there
and see if I would like to work, I went down there In December
and wrestled up in the dojo against Demento and I guess the UIWA
brass liked the way I worked and continued to book me.
Steve: How did you hook up
with UPW (WWF developmental territory)?
B-Boy: Well again it was
a good friend of mine in Samoa Joe, he told me about UPW and told
me to try out on one of their lite shows. I went up again, decided
that I wanted to try out because Joe was telling me that it was
one of the best things going in southern California. I went up
there met Bassman and Schwag and I worked the lite show against
Joe. I guess they saw potential and liked how I worked as well
and asked me to be on a galaxy show and I have booked ever since.
When I first went into UPW, Joe told me that there would opportunities
of a lifetime, I didn't' know it was gonna be like this.
Steve: Yeah, you are even
the current UPW cruiserweight titleholder. What is it like knowing
that UPW is getting it's own TV show, and being one of the promotions
title holders knowing you will be featured on TV a good deal?
B-Boy: Hell yeah it's a good
deal. With the television show going on, I'm just fortunate that
UPW chose me to carry the lightweight title going into the television
show because now I know for a fact that I will be on TV, which
is the best exposure you can get, and I know I will be UPW for
a long time. I'm just excited that I will be able to do what I
love to do not only in front of fans that will be in attendance
but people watching at home as well.
Steve: What is it like wrestling
in front of WWF scouts at UPW? Does it feel any different going
out there and knowing guys like Jim Ross will be watching and
evaluating you?
B-Boy: wow, the feeling is
phenomenal. Going out to wrestle in front of fans is everything
to me, but to know that guys like Bruce Pritchard, Paul Bearer
and Jim Ross are out in the audience basically looking over what
you got and evaluating you is like only what a indy worker can
dream about ya know? Your game has to be on top notch going into
your match and during the match, I try to bring something new
everytime they are there, so at least I will be notice some sort
of way and looked at.
Steve: Speaking of getting
exposure, you started working for Revolution Pro, and among fans
on the Internet Revolution Pro became a hot commodity. Your matches
there has gotten you national recognition and even has gotten
you ranked in the Death Valley Driver 500. What are your feelings
on that and how have your experiences in Revolution Pro been?
B-Boy: My experiences in
Rev Pro have been good, they have always treated me with respect
and have put me against their top guys. Being ranked on the 500
was a great accomplishment. I was seriously shocked to see my
name on there being ahead of other known wrestlers out in the
world. To me it's one thing to bring an audience to their feet
by performing, but it's another for the same people in the audience
to say and recognize to talk about your ability. It's the best
type of compliment any worker can get.
Steve: More than likely your
best known match is your singles match with Super Dragon, being
that it is talked about as a serious Match of the Year candidate
and it was included on Super Dragon's tape, Evolution.
What are your thoughts on that match?
B-Boy: I really enjoyed working
with dragon in contrary to belief. It was our first singles match
and I loved the whole angle as well as the match in particular.
It had a special feel, for the 70 people that were there know
what I'm talking about. I can't wait for our MPW match coming
up; it will be a test for both of us to see if we can do better.
Steve: Yeah, the angle that
played out last MPW show with you attacking Dragon was really
well done, and in my opinion should bring in a nice sized crowd
to see the match.
B-Boy: Yeah a lot of people
in southern California wanted to see a rematch if they missed
the first one, in my opinion I hope the match goes even better
then me and dragon are expecting it to be. The angle was great
and the delivery and the end went well, people really thought
I was shooting, so I mean it could've been better. I'm hoping
we get a lot of people to show, that's when we will probably perform
out best is in front of a bigger audience.
Steve: My personal opinion
about MPW is that they are booking for the fans. They are putting
together matches that people want to see, but for that the critics
have said MPW has no identity of its own, and others have referred
to it as a kind of SoCal All Star Show just using others talent,
what is your take on MPW?
B-Boy: Well MPW has an identity
and it's a SoCal All Star Show. MPW is a fan based oriented fed,
they bring to the table that no one has in SoCal. They put together
cards that people would come out and see. I love working MPW because
they are getting a good fan base and the fans are good to perform
for. I have no problem w/them and I like Paul and Adrian, they
are both straight up and are really cool cats. I hope to continue
working for them for a long time.
Steve: OK, where do you see
yourself going in wrestling? Some of the guys you work with in
UPW are wrestling in Japan right now, is that one of your goals?
If so what promotions would you like to work for?
B-Boy: Dude totally, I would
love to work in Japan, I'm so jealous of Joe and Tom right now
because it is one of my goals, I'm just glad that they are both
doing well over there. I'm especially happy for Joe, we always
used to talk about it one of us made it to Japan, and what would
happen and all. Well I would like to work a lot of promotions,
some would be, Zero One of course, New Japan, Torymon, Michinoku
Pro.... Osaka.... I mean I'm a big fan of all those promotions....
Steve: How about the WWF? Do you ever see yourself there?
B-Boy: Right now they have
so much talent I don't think I can see anyone there unless ECW
and WCW break away and do separate shows. I would love work in
any one, but right now it's really impossible to do so.
Steve: In your promo on Dragon
at the last MPW show, you said you "were upset that Dragon gets
to wrestle the big names MPW brings in". Obviously its a work,
but does it ever upset you when guys like Horseshu and Nathan
Jones get WWF dark matches based on their size, when you are levels
above them talent wise?
B-Boy: Well I believe I'm
better than no one, but it does upset me that all the "big" guys
get everything, It kinda just upsets me because lightweight like
myself, Reyes, Romero, Frankie Kazarian and others don't get that
type of push or anything. This business is real hard on us guys
(lightweights) for the simple fact that this business is a big
man business, on the other hand though it makes us want to work
harder and want it more than ever so we when or if we do make
it, we can look back and say we did it.
Steve: One thing that separates
you from a lot of the cruiserweights out there is the ability
you have to have good matches with some of the bigger wrestlers
out there. Why do you think you can pull it off while others fail?
B-Boy: To tell you the truth
I don't know, I'm a student of a the game, I constantly watch
tapes from old school to present and I study the guy I'm wrestling.
I pick apart the things I can't do and substitute things I can
do to someone who is big. So to answer your question I don't know
it's more on a feel like, "okay I can't do this because your to
big, so counter it with this ya know"?
Steve: Who are your favorite
guys to work against?
B-Boy: I love to work with
Reyes, Romero, Pinoy Boy, Frankie Kazarian, Samoa Joe, Lost Boyz...
I mean there is a lot more but these guys just pop up in my head
because everyone one brings something new to the table. I mean
I can have a wrestling match with Pinoy or Frankie, to have a
spotfest with the Lost Boyz and finally to have a stiff as fuck
match with Reyes and Joe. I love work different styles so I like
everyone that brings something ya know?
Steve: What about Excalibur,
when you guys worked against each other in that three way with
Rising Son, it seemed to go very well?
B-Boy: To tell you the truth
Excalibur and me have never had a full on singles match and is
definitely one guy I would love to work with in the near future.
Excalibur is very underrated in my opinion, one of the best sellers
in SoCal and can work like a madman as well. He is very gifted
and talented and he is on my top list of guys to work with that
I haven't already. Not only that he is a very professional type
of guy and respects everyone and that's a trait you don't pick
up until like you've been working like 3-6 years. I can only express
good things about him and I can't wait to work with him in the
future.
Steve: What other guys would
you like to work with around SoCal, that you haven't had the chance
to work with yet?
B-Boy: Umm.... Hmmm I've
worked with almost everybody but some that come to mind is, Tech
9, Messiah, Adam Pearce. All these guys are good and I believe
I can have a good match with them. Ultimate goal though is to
wrestle Chris Daniels.
Steve: You have been in like
75 different (OK exaggeration) tag teams in UPW. It looks like
you finally hit a groove with Funky Billy Kim. How did that come
to be and what are your thoughts on him?
B-Boy: Well the tag evolved
when Rick Bassman came up to ask and asked how we felt about tagging
with each other, we had a look that no one in UPW has. So we came
up with the whole gimmick name and gear when we got told that
they wanted to try us out. We went out and performed first time
as a tag and the response was good. I like tagging with Funky
because our styles are somewhat similar and we both have the same
philosophy on tagging. He is very underrated in my opinion and
can work with anyone. I'm actually happy the way things are going
for The Manilla Thrillaz.
Steve: What about you being
called Blazin' Benni Chong in UPW?
B-Boy: You know a lot of
people still ask me about that. I have no problem with the name
or the change. I was the one as well as others thought it would
be a good idea to have me changed the name for UPW. It was just
a name change to better suit the tag team. I'm Blazin only in
UPW, everywhere else I'm B-BOY. I guess it's weird because everyone
knows me as B-Boy.
Steve: Moving on to other
things, later this month you are entered as one of 16 in the prestigious
Revolution J tournament. What do you think about being
selected for the tournament?
B-Boy: You know I am really
honored and privileged to be apart of a thing like this. What
makes this tourney so special is that, there has been nothing
like this. A tourney that is so recognized in Japan, and now Ron
(Ron Rivera, Rev Pro's promoter) brings it to the SoCal. It's
a good thing not only for SoCal but the wrestlers that are in
there. The competition looks good and the workers in the tourney
are phenomenal talents, some bring their own flare to the tourney.
I am happy and somewhat humble that I was picked to be apart of
something so special.
Steve: The day of Revolution
J, WCWA also had you booked for their show. What happened
there?
B-Boy: Well it is a long
story, but I'll try to run it short. Ron told me to be apart of
the Rev J along time ago, but didn't have an exact date. WCWA
had the date and booked me, then it was announced what date the
REV J was going to be. I had a verbal agreement and was booked
prior. Everything is resolved and everything is totally cool,
I'm good friends with the owners of WCWA, and they were very professional
about it, and understood completely. So everything turned out
fine.
Steve: Now that we are caught
up to the present, I'm gonna give you some names, you give me
your opinion.
B-Boy: Okay, shoot
Steve: Samoa Joe
B-Boy: Joe is the man, one
out of the boys that has taken that big step and cross the line
to going overseas, I'm extremely happy for him, one thing I like
about Joe is that he will never forget where he will come from
always trying to hook you up or advising you to do something.
For as long as he has been in this business, he talks like a true
veteran....
Steve: Chip Adams / James
MacFarlane
B-Boy: Me and him go way
back, seems to be coming to his own with the new gimmick. Happy
on what he is doing and if continues to do so, can make it as
a top name in SoCal.
Steve: Los Cubanitos
B-Boy: Nothing but respect,
for JR and Reyes, two guys that are so underrated in SoCal it's
unbelievable. In my eyes two of the top guys out here. Are good
together but in singles, they are great. Reyes is a complete worker
and only the smarts see it. JR is also complete but don't get
that much recognition. I'm hoping down the line us three with
others in SoCal will finally have our sun in Japan. They deserve
respect
Steve: Frankie Kazarian
B-Boy: If WCW/ECW/WWF didn't
merge and it was still single departments, we would have definitely
seen Frankie in one of them, either in singles or tagging with
Nova. Someone who is actually busting his ass around the country
right now, hopefully sooner or later he will be picked up down
the road. Me and him have had some fun times man.
Steve: Pinoy Boy
B-Boy: The Rookie of the
Year in SoCal. Has learned so much from everyone in SoCal. Has
been in almost every locker room out here and knows everyone.
Reyes taught him very well and I guarantee that he will be the
most promising star out here soon enough. Has potential along
with natural talent with a good attitude, again SoCal rookie of
the year.... It's not Shogun; it's not any others with maybe the
exception of the Lost Boys that is at a close second.
Steve: Ok, as a final question,
what do you think of the scene in SoCal in general? As compared
to other parts of the country how would you rate it and where
do you think it is going?
B-Boy: SoCal right now is
hot but can die at any moment. I'm just happy I've accomplished
what I have when I could. In SoCal there is a lot of politics
as well as political bullshit here. SoCal is the hotbed of indy
wrestling right now; a lot of people want to come here to wrestle.
SoCal is generally where it is at right now in the country. My
main concern with SoCal is that it's getting too political and
would demise anytime.
Steve: Is there any last
thing you would like to say to everyone?
B-Boy: To all workers, all
I can say is keep faith.... Hard for a lot of people out here
working and stuff, but keep faith, if you really want it the opportunity
will come, just got to let it come. To promotions, remember this
we are indy workers working for indy feds, always remember to
take of the boys as well as the fans, to the fans -thanks for
the support as well as supporting us (workers) as well everyone
one of the wrestlers appreciate it and as for me, who knows where
I will go or might do, all I can say is that I'm living a dream,
that a lot of people dot' have, I'm just happy I'm able to do
so, B-Boy comes to you raw and comes at you from the heart, I
go out to perform to the best of my abilities and excite the fans
and it's like this, like me or don't like me but you damn well
will respect me.
Steve: Thank you for your
time and good luck.
B-Boy: Thank you...always
keep it real.