Brawlin' Bo Cooper interview
by Steve
Brawlin' Bo Cooper has been around the SoCal wrestling
scene for about six years. In this interview he talks about his
various gimmicks, "Backyard Dogs", the EWF/IWC split,
Louie Spicolli, and more.
Steve: Lets start at the beginning, what
got you interested in wrestling, and how did you get started as
a wrestler?
Brawlin' Bo Cooper: Well... As a kid I was
always glued to the tube every Saturday night I would hope that
wrestling would come on so I could watch it. I guess what really
got me was when I went to my first live show held by the WWF in
Los Angeles. I was about 7 years old and my mom took me and I
started going every time they came to LA. I was about 12 years
old when I went to a house show and I got there a little early
and I was marking out standing by the entrance way hoping I could
get a good up and close look at one of the wrestlers and that's
where I met Louie Spicolli. He was really young then and he was
not even wrestling for WWF yet he was just there with Jesse and
Bill as one of the "boys" I yelled for him to come and
talk to me and he walked over and said "what's up kid "
I then said I want to be a pro wrestler like you. He then said
"well I think you mite be a little to young to start training
but if you like I can give you a number to call when you get a
little older. I held on to that number till I was 15, then one
night I was watching a guy named Shadow conduct a wrestling talk
show, and I heard him mention something about Bill Anderson and
Jesse Hernandez' School of Hard Knocks. I called in got the number
and the next week me and my mom drove to San Bernardino to meet
Jesse and Bill. The cool thing was that when I got there Louie
was there and I brought that number he gave me with me to the
school. Him and me kind of looked at each other and then he became
the whole reason I got into the wrestling world.
Steve: What was training at the EWF School
of Hard Knocks like?
Bo Cooper: Well I was very young and I pretty
much thought that I knew it all because I watched wrestling my
whole life. Well after the first 10 minutes I knew I was in for
one hell of a ride. When I first started training it took me a
while to grasp things I remember that I could never do a dropkick.
Well Louie said "by the end of the night you will".
I said "I don't think I can", and he said "hey
Jess give me that old jump rope you got back there". He tied
that jump rope around my feet and made me do 50 dropkicks with
my feet tied together. I know have a really good drop kick. All
in all Jesse and the boys at EWF were tough on me but very corrective.
There is no other training in the world today that is like jesses.
He is always watching and making sure that every thing is perfect.
" Little things count the most sometimes" he says.
Steve: When you debuted you were the Hangman.
Tell us a little about the gimmick and how it came about.
Bo Cooper: well I was still green and Jesse
wanted to make sure that in case I went out there and messed up
I would be protected under a mask. The gimmick was I was a old
time hang man that cared nothing but getting the 123 even if that
meant I had to use my noose. I was a heel and I pretty much got
the hang of things in the ring under that gimmick at first I was
kind of disappointed about having my first match under a mask
but now I see the importance of it all my first match was with
Krazy K.C. on 04 May 96 at the San Bernardino old boys and girls
club.
Steve: How long did you wrestle as the Hangman?
Bo Cooper: One and a half-year.
Steve: Then you became Brawlin' Bo Cooper?
Bo Cooper: No I then tried a gimmick as Bo
Rotten I had the long blonde hair and Luna Vachoan told me I looked
like Axle Rotten and then I thought that mite get over being a
bigger younger brother to Axle and Ian Rotten... Well I did not.
So I had that for about 6 months and then I went and trained in
Florida for 4 months with dean malenko ... during one training
session a green kid gave me a stiff drop kick to me knee and blew
it out bad. So I flew home from Florida and told Jesse I needed
to take about a half a year off to let me knee heal. Once my knee
was a hundred percent I came back to the Empire Wrestling Federation
and the School of Hard Knocks. That's when I found Brawlin' Bo
Cooper.
Steve: When you became Brawlin' Bo Cooper,
why do you feel that persona finally worked?
Bo Cooper: Well it fit. I like to brawl in
my matches I like a lot of out side ring work and I was at first
the AV brawler in Palmdale I was the home town kid when EWF came
to Antelope Valley. After we stopped running shows in av. I thought
well I mite ass well change it to AV to just Brawlin' Bo Cooper.
I was face at first then stared siding with the heels.
Steve: About that same time Louie Spicolli
passed away. With him being on of the people who trained you,
and your main inspiration to become a wrestler, what were your
feelings at that time?
Bo Cooper: When I first heard I could not
believe it my mom called me at like 3 in the morning crying saying
Louie died at first I thought it was a sick rib being played on
me but then when I realized that it was my mother on the other
line I was devastated. I waited till early morning to call Jesse
and tried to find out what happened. When I heard it from bobby
Bradley's and jesses own mouth I felt like my hero just died.
Which was true. Bill Anderson was the one I felt sorry for the
most Louie was a like bills son. They went everywhere together.
Louie was in his prime he was the superstar that was just moments
away from showing the world once again what a great wrestler he
was.
Steve: Speaking of Bill Anderson, he and
Jesse Hernandez had a very public split. What are your feelings
about the split and why did you stay with the EWF?
Bo Cooper: Well lets just say me and Jesse
clicked more and he thought me more than bill did. When Jesse
called me and told me Bill Anderson is no longer with the Empire
Wrestling Federation I felt torn because they both were in my
life and they both were my trainers but I felt my heart and my
commitment was to Jesse. Bill always had his "kliq"
and I was never one of his " boys" I was Jesse's and
Bobby Bradley's "boys".
Steve: Did you have any hard feelings towards
the guys who left the EWF and joined the IWC?
Bo Cooper: Well to be honest I knew they
would all come crawling back to Jesse. And Jesse is smart, he
knew that too. So to answer your question I had no hard feelings
I just knew that they would want to come back. And when they did
I felt like they should have stayed with Bill.
Steve: Obviously Bill Anderson's IWC is no
longer around, while the EWF is as alive as ever. In fact the
EWF is currently the longest running fed in Southern California.
Why do you think the EWF has been able to last so long?
Bo Cooper: Because Jesse knows how to handle
things when things are going down hill he knows how to take care
of the business and the business has took care of him. Hell if
you go and pick up the latest issue of WWF Raw magazine. There
is an article about Jesse and the EWF and about Rico. Jesse Hernandez
has the heart and the passion for the biz. He is not some idiot
trying to make a buck. He wants his boys to be the best and he
lets us know that it is up to us to make it with his support.
Steve: Recently Jesse Hernandez instituted
a rule where wrestlers had to show up at EWF practices and have
to get permission to work other non-EWF shows if they want to
stay in the EWF. What are your feelings on the rule?
Bo Cooper: Well with the whole practice thing
I think he is doing what every promoter should do. Why should
there be guys that come to work out three times a week and bust
there ass off in the ring and not get the chance to work a show
because there are guys on the card that only come twice a week
and still get to work the show? "Out of site out of mind"
is his motto, and Jesse never asks any workers to ask permission
to work other places, it's about respect and the way his boys
are being used in the other promotions. If a promoter wants to
use some of his boys for a show Jesse wants to be contacted by
the promoter. I think that is one of the most things I respect
about Jess. If the promoter for a show calls Jesse and says he
would like to use some of his boys don't you think Jesse is going
to make sure his boys get treated the right way not going off
and having them kill there gimmick or something like that.
Steve: Moving away from the EWF, have you
had much of a chance to check out some of the other promotions
in SoCal, and if so how do you think they compare to the EWF?
Bo Cooper: I have done my homework. I think
that there are feds out in SoCal that have heart and they try
to put on a good show I respect any one that tries, but no promotion
compares to EWF on a professional level that EWF's dressing room
has. Even you Steve said the EWF is as alive as ever. In fact
the EWF is currently the longest running fed in Southern California
that is why it comes first in my mind to any other fed. The story
lines are awesome the crowd never dies we always have no BS when
it comes time to hand out the money to the boys. Bobby Bradley
is the main man behind the curtain and he makes sure ever match
makes sense before he just throws guys out there and says work.
It has to all make sense for the fans to keep coming back for
more.
Steve: Moving back to you, what has been
some of your favorite matches and favorite opponents?
Bo Cooper: Well if I had to pick my all time
favorite, it would probably be the "Suicide Kid" Mikey
Henderson. We grew up in the biz together and every time we stepped
in the ring we flowed well we would have some awesome matches.
I cant forget working with Bobby Bradley. Those were some crazy
bumps we took. I loved working with the Honky Tonk Man, he was
probably the funnest match I ever had.
Steve: You were in the movie "Backyard
Dogs", tell us a little about the movie and how it came about.
Bo Cooper: That was great. Jesse told me
that he thought I would be good character in the movie so he brought
me and some of his best guys down to do a try out for the part
and we all made parts. It was great working the movie. Downtown
Hollywood and every thing. They had me as "Captain Deathwish".
I played a big mean backyard wrestler.
Steve: What are your goals as a wrestler?
Do you see yourself in the WWF, Japan, what is in Brawlin' Bo
Cooper's future?
Bo Cooper: I want to be successful. I would
love to go to Titan, WWF. I am not a real big fan on Japan, I
love Mexico though. My main goal is to have faith and wherever
this biz takes me I know there was a reason for it.
Steve: Are there any wrestlers in SoCal right
now that you haven't faced that you would want too?
Bo Cooper: I think I could have some great
matches with b boy well Spanky but he is gone , and I would like
to work the Ballards some time. I would like to work Pogo the
Clown too. I think we could have a great hardcore match.
Steve: Since every interview seems to include
it now days, how about some word association?
Bo Cooper: Shoot.
Steve: Jesse Hernandez.
Bo Cooper: Professional.
Steve: Rico Costantino.
Bo Cooper: Successful.
Steve: Bobby Bradley.
Bo Cooper: Loyal and best SoCal worker ever.
Steve: Bill Anderson
Bo Cooper: Who?
Steve: EWF Jeff.
Bo Cooper: Fan.
Steve: Los Cubanitos.
Bo Cooper: Determined.
Steve: XPW.
Bo Cooper: Too hardcore for the money.
Steve: Frankie Kazarian.
Bo Cooper: Charismatic.
Steve: The internet.
Bo Cooper: Biggest porn shop in the world.
Steve: Wrestling sites on the internet.
Bo Cooper: Exposure.
Steve: Mikey Henderson.
Bo Cooper: Underrated.
Steve: Finally, Brawlin' Bo Cooper
Bo Cooper: Good attitude, open minded, hard
working, and great wrestler.
Steve: Before we end this interview is their
any last words you would like to say?
Bo Cooper: Well other than thank you for
doing this interview with one of the most rudest, crudest, tattooed,
wrestlers in the world, I would like to say that no matter how
far you go in the wrestling world, as you long as you got the
heart, mind, and soul, then you have already made it. And be sure
to check out www.ewf-wrestling.net.